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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Nov 17 @ 9:58 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Penguins Need To Shake Up The Lines, Letang Needs To Pick It Up Penguins are in the midst of a slump, mild changes could provide spark to get out of it.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Nov 17 @ 10:06 AM ET
I will take those lines anyday!!

Something needs to change. Im not saying trading players or firing coaches. .. yet

Other teams are easily finding ways to stop the penguins forecheck and breakout...

nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Nov 17 @ 10:29 AM ET
also the pp still needs work... i cant believe pens are ranked 6th with like a 22%
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Nov 17 @ 10:42 AM ET
a viable back-up goaltender wouldn't hurt the cause either.
DaveG73
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Dunellen, NJ
Joined: 07.02.2006

Nov 17 @ 11:03 AM ET
Was at game last night and not sure if I agree with Bennett on first line just yet. During third period he got pretty good with his head down and it appeared to shake him a bit. Had this been the old Devils (Stevens,Niedemayer, White, etc..), he would have left on a stretcher. I'm not questioning his skills, I question his size and physical ability to take that beating in front of the net against a top defensive pairing.
As for Letang, I would talk to Buffalo about a trade for Miller. That would solve two problems, get rid of a liability and sure-up another(Fleury). Maybe Shero works his trade magic in that deal and gets a sleeper secondary scorer( like Cody Hodgson.). This should be enough of a message to players. If this doesn't work, Bylsma has to go because it means he can't get these guys going anymore.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Nov 17 @ 11:17 AM ET
Was at game last night and not sure if I agree with Bennett on first line just yet. During third period he got pretty good with his head down and it appeared to shake him a bit. Had this been the old Devils (Stevens,Niedemayer, White, etc..), he would have left on a stretcher. I'm not questioning his skills, I question his size and physical ability to take that beating in front of the net against a top defensive pairing.
As for Letang, I would talk to Buffalo about a trade for Miller. That would solve two problems, get rid of a liability and sure-up another(Fleury). Maybe Shero works his trade magic in that deal and gets a sleeper secondary scorer( like Cody Hodgson.). This should be enough of a message to players. If this doesn't work, Bylsma has to go because it means he can't get these guys going anymore.

- DaveG73


Hodgson is the worst defensive center in hockey.

http://www.wgr550.com/pag...7039#.Unov1JjOJwg.twitter

Shero isn't trading Letang away when the centerpiece coming back is a UFA.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Nov 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
Was at game last night and not sure if I agree with Bennett on first line just yet. During third period he got pretty good with his head down and it appeared to shake him a bit. Had this been the old Devils (Stevens,Niedemayer, White, etc..), he would have left on a stretcher. I'm not questioning his skills, I question his size and physical ability to take that beating in front of the net against a top defensive pairing.
As for Letang, I would talk to Buffalo about a trade for Miller. That would solve two problems, get rid of a liability and sure-up another(Fleury). Maybe Shero works his trade magic in that deal and gets a sleeper secondary scorer( like Cody Hodgson.). This should be enough of a message to players. If this doesn't work, Bylsma has to go because it means he can't get these guys going anymore.

- DaveG73


Your idea with Buffalo has so much fail to it. If you trade Letang, one young NHL ready player, a top prospect and a high pick. Why trade him for a pending free agent and another center who sucks defensively?
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Nov 17 @ 11:59 AM ET
I like the idea of shuffling lines but I see a little different.

kunitz, crosby, dupuis
malkin, jokinen, neal
bennett, sutter, d'agostini
glass, adams, vitale

jokinen was wicked at center last year with good linemates... and maybe having malkin on the wing helps him start shooting the puck more. I would give a guy with a history off scoring goals, matt d, a couple more games to shake off the rust.
mw630
Joined: 06.24.2011

Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM ET
The Pens offensive issues don't worry me too much right now. When you have the talent they have upfront, the goals are going to come. The biggest concern for me is that they basically have two 4th lines playing each game. D'Agostini shouldn't be on the team, and Kobasew isn't much better. They need to work some size/nastiness into the 3rd line. Come playoff time, they really need a line that can grind it out in the offensive end and get under the other team's skin. The guys they have now don't fit that mold.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Nov 17 @ 12:47 PM ET
I've wanted those lines for a while now I always said Malkin benefits much more than Crosby by having Kinitz. Crosby can make anyone good.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Nov 17 @ 12:50 PM ET
Stars claimed Jeffrey on waivers
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Nov 17 @ 1:15 PM ET
Stars claimed Jeffrey on waivers
- Deadstar

wtf!! when was he put on waivers and why didnt they try to get a 6th or 7th for him....

watch him break out in Dallas...
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Nov 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
wtf!! when was he put on waivers and why didnt they try to get a 6th or 7th for him....

watch him break out in Dallas...

- nh4442


Because no one would give up a 6th or 7th for him.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Nov 17 @ 1:27 PM ET
Because no one would give up a 6th or 7th for him.
- Ben37

well does that mean megna or someone will get called up? noone is ready to come back from IR correct?
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Nov 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
well does that mean megna or someone will get called up? noone is ready to come back from IR correct?
- nh4442


Hopefully it means they are bringing Despres up. Hes been tearing up the scoresheet in WBS
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Nov 17 @ 1:51 PM ET
Hopefully it means they are bringing Despres up. Hes been tearing up the scoresheet in WBS
- Deadstar

DB hates despres and wont play him even if he is up... it will be

3-58
44-7
2-41/5

even when scudes comes back, engels will be moved to forward and burtuzzo will sit out...

despres is stuck in wb/s until DB is gone, or until next yr when martin and orpik contracts are done and they dont re-up

I am with Gunner and think Megna should be up to help out the 3rd line... bennett needs to be up with sid and jussi down with sutter
saintjust21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NY
Joined: 02.05.2009

Nov 17 @ 1:52 PM ET
The last time this team felt like it was a mess like this in the regular season was 09... Right before MT got canned.

Second thought, anyone else feel like letang has regressed in parts Of his game every year since HCDB? I know last year was norris potential but,... Shortened season. How much longer do you talk about kris' potential Before it shows up consistently?
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Nov 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
The last time this team felt like it was a mess like this in the regular season was 09... Right before MT got canned.

Second thought, anyone else feel like letang has regressed in parts Of his game every year since HCDB? I know last year was norris potential but,... Shortened season. How much longer do you talk about kris' potential Before it shows up consistently?

- saintjust21

the same amount that we talk about fleury being consistent and not sketchy.... and the same amount of time we talk about fleury not being ready for playoffs...
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Nov 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
The last time this team felt like it was a mess like this in the regular season was 09... Right before MT got canned.

Second thought, anyone else feel like letang has regressed in parts Of his game every year since HCDB? I know last year was norris potential but,... Shortened season. How much longer do you talk about kris' potential Before it shows up consistently?

- saintjust21


It it Bylsma or is it the fact that he is no longer on the bottom pairing seeing easier matchups? Because when they won it all he was the 6th d man.

After Gonchar left he has had to inherit those kind of minutes.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Nov 17 @ 2:53 PM ET
The last time this team felt like it was a mess like this in the regular season was 09... Right before MT got canned.

Second thought, anyone else feel like letang has regressed in parts Of his game every year since HCDB? I know last year was norris potential but,... Shortened season. How much longer do you talk about kris' potential Before it shows up consistently?

- saintjust21


That team was in danger of missing the playoffs. Long way to go before thats a possibility
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Nov 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
[quote=ChrisMS]I like the idea of shuffling lines but I see a little different.

kunitz, crosby, dupuis
malkin, jokinen, neal
bennett, sutter, d'agostini
glass, adams, vitale

I agree with these lines the most. I think joki is an awesome player and him and malkin seem to have a good chemistry goin on. the first line was the best in hockey last year, I don't think we need to change that up just yet. I would sit d'ago and put in megna.

just remember, we cant win them all. I don't think there needs to be any drastic changes yet. we have been getting tons of chances. the hockey gods are not with us right meow. our time will come. if we still look this bad for a solid month, then look out.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Nov 17 @ 6:29 PM ET
While its way to early to start to panic, it has been frustrating watchin malkin struggle and watching our depth lines not chip in. martin has been less noticable this year... and to address moving bennett up... shaking things up is a good idea but he certainly hasn't done more than anyone on the top 6 to say he's earned his spot on the top 6 either. In fact the 3rd line has seemed almost invisible to me. glass has been hitting everything in sight. letang is scoring again and fun to watch but he needs to remember whos on the IR. We have some time yet but if we dont play some above 500 hockey soon....
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Nov 17 @ 7:06 PM ET
wtf!! when was he put on waivers and why didnt they try to get a 6th or 7th for him....

watch him break out in Dallas...

- nh4442


Healthy scratches normally don't command much in return. Jeffrey wasn't worth a pick. He can't play for the Pens with our third and fourth lines ... that should tell you how much value he really has - zero.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Nov 17 @ 8:19 PM ET
Healthy scratches normally don't command much in return. Jeffrey wasn't worth a pick. He can't play for the Pens with our third and fourth lines ... that should tell you how much value he really has - zero.
- Oneonta Penguin


I'm just glad I never have to watch him sloth his way around the ice anymore. Addition by subtraction. I feel bad for the guy because he's not been the same guy since his knee injury.

On another note. It's only one game, but Vitale is the better option over Sill.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Nov 17 @ 8:43 PM ET
Glad Jeffrey finally got out.... Maybe he'll get a better opportunity there, and maybe he'll actually capitalize of his opportunities there.
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